Bent - Lone Pairs

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Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Dayna Pham 1I » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:22 am

For the bent shape, does this include instances where there's one lone pair, as well as instances including two lone pairs?

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Peichung Chou 1A
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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Peichung Chou 1A » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:32 am

Yes, the molecular shape for an AX2E and AX2E2 molecule are both bent. However, the electron geometry would be different for both.

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Sarah Fatkin 4I » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:34 am

Yes, for example, NO2 and O3 both have one lone pair and have bent molecular shape.

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Sarah Jeong 4F » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:52 am

Adding on, if there were two lone pairs, then the angles between the atoms would be smaller than if there were only one lone pair even if they were both bent shape.

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Mallory_Podosin_1H » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:13 pm

Are the angles the same or different whether it is one lone pair or two lone pairs in the bent shape?
edit - oops just saw the post above...

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Amy Dinh 1A » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:15 pm

Mallory_Podosin_1H wrote:Are the angles the same or different whether it is one lone pair or two lone pairs in the bent shape?


I presume the bond angles will be different depending on how many lone pairs there are in a bent shape. For sure they are both less than 109.5 degrees, but the more lone pairs there are the smaller the bond angle.

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Yixiao Hu 3C » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:06 pm

Yes, shape for an AX2E and AX2E2 molecule are bent.

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Ashita Tanwar 3H » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:43 am

Bond angles will be different because the repulsion between the pairs where there is one versus two lone pairs is significant enough to have an effect on the bond angles.

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Re: Bent - Lone Pairs

Postby Rylee Nelsen 3A » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:56 am

Yes, the molecular geometry for both would be bent. However, they would have different electron geometries.


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