When to use Cv vs Cp

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LaurenDinh_3L
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When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby LaurenDinh_3L » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:46 pm

For Midterm 2010 4A, I don't understand why we need to use Cv when the volume is obviously changing due to compression. I read in a post from last year that we can just assume that since pressure isn't mentioned in the problem that we don't know if pressure is constant. I still can't wrap my head around the fact that we use Cv even though the volume is changing. And also, isn't nitrogen gas (N2) a linear molecule rather than atomic? So why do we use the C value for a monoatomic species?

Thanks in advance!!

Quynh Nguyen 2O
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Re: When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby Quynh Nguyen 2O » Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:24 pm

I asked the same thing in a different post but it wasn't really answered! I'm also wondering the same thing.

LaurenDinh_3L
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Re: When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby LaurenDinh_3L » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:57 am

Bumppp

Victoria Liang 3L
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Re: When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby Victoria Liang 3L » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:06 pm

Someone answer this please.

Kayla Denton 1A
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Re: When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby Kayla Denton 1A » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:30 pm

You're right about the N2 thing; I think that was a mistake.
As for the constant volume, you're separating the problem into two processes since entropy is a state function.
1. reversible, isothermal compression (edit: NOT at constant volume here)
2. temperature change at constant volume.

Hope that helps!
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LaurenDinh_3L
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Re: When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby LaurenDinh_3L » Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:36 pm

I still don't quite understand how it can compress but still have the same volume? If it's compressing its volume is supposed to decrease. Therefore there is a change in volume.

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Re: When to use Cv vs Cp

Postby Kayla Denton 1A » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:03 pm

Oh sorry, I meant: reversible, isothermal compression. THEN temperature change at constant volume. You're totally right, I have no idea why I wrote compression at constant volume.


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