Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

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Michelle Song 1G
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Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Michelle Song 1G » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:27 pm

Under what conditions does it not equal 10^-14? For 6B.9 [H3O+][OH-] does not equal 10^-14...

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Jeannine 1I » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:38 pm

I'm not sure what that problem is since I have the 6th edition, but I believe it is 10^-14 under lab conditions, which means the temperature is constant. Even then, I'm not sure if it is ALWAYS equal to 10^-14. I'd like to know too, it's a good question!

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Katie Sy 1L » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:38 pm

it is 10^-14 only when water is at a constant 25 degrees C

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby marisaimbroane1J » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:43 pm

For the purpose of this class, I think the reactions we will be given will all be at 25 degrees Celsius if we are expected to use Kw. As long as the temperature is 25 Celsius, Kw=10^-14.

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Max Hayama 4K » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:47 pm

Kw will be 10^-14 only if the temperature is 25 degrees Celsius. If the temperature is different, the equilibrium constant for the autoprotolysis of water will also be different. This is because autoionization is endothermic, meaning an increase in temperature will result in more products, shifting equilibrium to the right.

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Ricardo Martin 1J » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:47 am

It is only equal to 10^-14 when water is at 25 degrees C. However, I believe (at least so far) our reactions will be given in this condition.

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Angela Cong 3C » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:18 pm

even if kw is not equal to 1*10^-14, [H3O+][OH-] is still equal to kw and to find concentration, you just sqaureroot the kw

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby 2c_britneyly » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:49 pm

Any time there is a change in temperature then Kw is subject to change. For the purpose of this class we assume Kw=10^-14

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby Tony Chung 2I » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:32 pm

Yes, only if the temperature of the water is at a constant temperature of 25 degrees celsius.

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Re: Does [H3O+][OH-] always equal 10^-14?

Postby abbydouglas1K » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:53 pm

Michelle Song 1G wrote:Under what conditions does it not equal 10^-14? For 6B.9 [H3O+][OH-] does not equal 10^-14...

I ran into this same problem and I am not 100% sure why it does not work because it works for the last two parts but it may be because we can not assume that the values of the temperature are constant.


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