Delta G spontaneity






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Delta G spontaneity

Postby deniise_garciia » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:06 am

How can you tell if delta G is spontaneous or non spontaneous when it is Temperature dependent?

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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby Cynthia Aragon 1B » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:17 am

When Delta G is given and you see the standard symbol it means standard temperature which is 298K. Also 1M and 1Atm is standard. Delta G is spontaneous when Delta H is positive and and Delta S is positive. Also, Delta G is spontaneous when both Delta H and Delta s are negative.

Delta G is non-spontaneous when both Delta H and Delta S are positive. Moreover, it can be that both Delta H and Delta S are negative.

Positive meaning favorable which increases entropy and negative meaning unfavorable which decreases entropy.

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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby MadisonB » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:24 am

As a side note, you can further solve for when it becomes spontaneous by setting the equation equal to zero and solving for T.

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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby Jocelyne Milke 1G » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:42 pm

Here's a picture that may help.
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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby yuetao4k » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:27 pm

When you plug in the temperature and other variables, as long as delta G is negative, then the reaction is spontaneous.

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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby Celio_G_Dis2C » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:35 pm

When delta H and delta S have differing signs then the reaction is temperature dependent

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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby Celio_G_Dis2C » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:39 pm

"Delta G is non-spontaneous when both Delta H and Delta S are positive. Moreover, it can be that both Delta H and Delta S are negative. " is not correct. It MAY become nonspontaneous

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Re: Delta G spontaneity

Postby Nghi Nguyen 2L » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:20 pm

you really just have to look at delta G in relation to the other variables such as delta H, delta S, and T
knowing their signs will help you determine whether or not delta G is positive or negative, thus giving you spontaneity


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