E 29 part c

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E 29 part c

Postby venning-1J » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:26 pm

Im having trouble figuring out part c.

E.29 A chemist measured out 8.61 g of copper(II) chloride tetrahydrate, CuCl2 4H2O.
(a) How many moles of CuCl2 4H2O were measured out? 0.0417 mol
(b) How many moles of Cl ions are present in the sample? .0834 mol
[i](c) How many H2O molecules are present in the sample? [/i]
(d) What fraction of the total mass of the sample was due to oxygen? 0.31

I attempted to multiply 0.0417 x 4 x 6.0022x10^23 but I am not getting the answer, which the book states is 1.00 x 10^23.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby RahilVaknalliDis3A » Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:32 pm

You are on the right track. I believe there is a simple calculation error since you are multiplying the number of moles of water molecules with the wrong number. Avogradro's constant is 6.022 x 1023 and not 6.0022 x 1023

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Christy Zhao 1H » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:12 pm

I'm confused with part d. How would I go about to find what fraction of the total mass of the sample was due to oxygen?

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby jorineraymundo2h » Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:36 pm

It's easier to answer the question if you think of the problem's pathway.

Mass (CuCl2 4H2O) -> Moles (CuCl2 4H20) -> Moles (4H20) -> Molecules

(8.16g/206.53gmol^(-1)) x 4molesH20 x (6.0221x10^(23)) = 1.00 x 10^(23)

I hope this helps!

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Aman Sankineni 2L » Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:32 pm

For part d, you must figure out the mass of oxygen as part of the formula. Since there is 4 oxygen atoms, the mass of oxygen is 16x4=64. By dividing that by the total mass of the formula, 206.446, you can figure out what fraction of the total mass was due to oxygen. 64/206.446=.310008 or 31%.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Amy Kumar 1I » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:16 am

Aman Sankineni 3E wrote:For part d, you must figure out the mass of oxygen as part of the formula. Since there is 4 oxygen atoms, the mass of oxygen is 16x4=64. By dividing that by the total mass of the formula, 206.446, you can figure out what fraction of the total mass was due to oxygen. 64/206.446=.310008 or 31%.


Do you not have to take into account that there were 8.61 g of copper(II) chloride tetrahydrate initially?

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Kassidy Ford 1I » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:47 am

Because it is just the percentage of mass of oxygen, then the original mass of 8.61g copper(II) chloride tetrahydrate doesn't matter. No matter how many grams of the sample you have the percentage mass of oxygen should always be the same because of the molar ratios. Correct me if I'm wrong!

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Kassidy Ford 1I » Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:48 am

Because it is just the percentage of mass of oxygen, then the original mass of 8.61g copper(II) chloride tetrahydrate doesn't matter. No matter how many grams of the sample you have the percentage mass of oxygen should always be the same because of the molar ratios. Correct me if I'm wrong!

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Aman Sankineni 2L » Thu Oct 03, 2019 11:06 pm

Kassidy Ford 1J wrote:Because it is just the percentage of mass of oxygen, then the original mass of 8.61g copper(II) chloride tetrahydrate doesn't matter. No matter how many grams of the sample you have the percentage mass of oxygen should always be the same because of the molar ratios. Correct me if I'm wrong!

Yup, this is right. Molar ratios always remain the same. No matter the mass of the copper(II) chloride tetrahydrate, the percent composition of oxygen remains the same.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Cooper_Geralds_3B » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:26 pm

Hi, we did this problem in discussion today but I missed the answers. For part a) I ended up getting 0.0423 moles and I was wondering why I got a different answer than posted above? I multiplied 8.61 g * (1 mol/ 202.484 g/mol). I got 202.484 g/mol by adding up the molar mass.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Adalia 3E » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:32 pm

Cooper_Geralds_2E wrote:Hi, we did this problem in discussion today but I missed the answers. For part a) I ended up getting 0.0423 moles and I was wondering why I got a different answer than posted above? I multiplied 8.61 g * (1 mol/ 202.484 g/mol). I got 202.484 g/mol by adding up the molar mass.


I got 206.45g/mol when adding up the molar mass, maybe it has to do with that?

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby Cooper_Geralds_3B » Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:33 pm

Hi, we did this problem in discussion today but I missed the answers. For part a) I ended up getting 0.0423 moles and I was wondering why I got a different answer than posted above? I multiplied 8.61 g * (1 mol/ 202.484 g/mol). I got 202.484 g/mol by adding up the molar mass.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby isha dis3d » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:35 pm

Cooper_Geralds_2E wrote:Hi, we did this problem in discussion today but I missed the answers. For part a) I ended up getting 0.0423 moles and I was wondering why I got a different answer than posted above? I multiplied 8.61 g * (1 mol/ 202.484 g/mol). I got 202.484 g/mol by adding up the molar mass.



I think it has to do with the molar mass. Specifically it would be:
Cu: 63.55
Cl: 35.45 x 2 = 70.9
H 2 0: 18.02 x 4= 72.08

Adding all these is 206.5 g/mol. 8.61 g divided by this gives us 0.0417 mol Cucl2 4H20.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby 205484435 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 1:10 am

Hi, I was having trouble on part b of this problem, of someone can walk me through it I would really appreciate it.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby azurexrose » Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:35 am

We know the chemist measured out 8.61 g of CuCl2 4H2O, which has a molar mass of 206.51 g/mol. This means there are 0.0417 moles of CuCl2 4H2O. Since each molecule of CuCl2 4H2O contains 2 Cl ions, when this dissolves in water, the chlorine ions separate, so there are a total of 0.0834 moles of Cl.

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Re: E 29 part c

Postby amreen_sandhu1k » Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:01 am

Hi I am having trouble with part d of this problem I would really appreciate if someone could walk me how they solved that.


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