test problem 4A.5 continued

isochoric/isometric:
isothermal:
isobaric:

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JosephineF
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test problem 4A.5 continued

Postby JosephineF » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:59 pm

Why does this problem use for an irreversible expansion but w=-nRTln(V2/V1) for a reversible expansion?

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Re: test problem 4A.5 continued

Postby LBacker_2E » Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:24 pm

You always use w=Pex x (delta)V for an irreversible expansion because the change in volume is measurable. For a reversible process you use the other equation because the change in volume is infinitestimally small. For the reversible expansion, pressure falls as the volume increases which is reflected by the nRT part of the equation from PV=nRT.

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Re: test problem 4A.5 continued

Postby Grace Jansen 2A » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:06 am

If you look back at the notes, you can see Dr. Lavelle derive the equation for the reversible expansion. Additionally, it is also in the book.

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Re: test problem 4A.5 continued

Postby Ivan Tadeja 1G » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:12 pm

I'm not exactly sure of the derivations for both, but I would just correlate each equation to irreversible and reversible respectively. Just know which of those equations to use given its reversible or not.


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