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Sponetanity

Postby Susanna Givan 2B » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:27 pm

Can we determine spontaneity by just looking at Gibbs free energy or we also have to look at enthalpy and entropy?

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Aaron Akhavan-Dis1B » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:41 pm

When deltaG (Gibbs) is negative, it's spontaneous. You can use the equation deltaG=deltaH - TdeltaS. and see when delta H and delta S make delta G negative. Also when deltaS is positive then the reaction is spontaneous. When deltaH is negative then the reaction is spontaneous. But again plug in the numbers into the equation to see which can be positive or negative and still get a negative deltaG.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby LovepreetSran_3H » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:46 pm

A negative deltaG, Gibbs free energy, is spontaneous, so yes it can be used to determine spontaneity.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Nishan Reddy 3K » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:29 pm

When ∆G is negative, the reaction is spontaneous whereas the reaction is non-spontaneous if the ∆G is positive. This relates to the enthalpy and entropy because when the ∆enthalpy is negative and the ∆entropy is positive, the reaction is ALWAYS spontaneous. Thus, we can determine spontaneity through the relationship between entropy and enthalpy which is expressed through the Gibb's free energy.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Brooke Gushiken 1B » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:54 pm

If ΔG (Gibbs Free Energy) is negative, then the reaction will be spontaneous. Also, it's important to keep in mind that ΔG = ΔH - TΔS, so you can see which combined values for enthalpy and entropy will result in a negative ΔG and therefore spontaneous reaction.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Triston Dinh 1D » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:21 pm

If you know the value of delta G then you will automatically know if the reaction is spontaneous. If only given the values for enthalpy and entropy, you would need to solve for delta G using the equation: delta G = delta H - T*(delta S).

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Evan L 2B » Sat Feb 12, 2022 11:00 am

If you know the Gibbs free energy value then you can determine spontaneity because if the free energy is negative then the reaction is spontaneous. Entropy and Enthalpy do relate to Gibbs free energy using ΔG = ΔH - TΔS so if you know those values you can also determine spontaneity as well.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Jessica Cornelia Hongarta 1G » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:26 pm

The itself should be enough to determine whether a reaction's spontaneity ( indicating that the reaction is spontaneous and indicating that the reaction is not spontaneous. However, if you are not given , you can use entropy and enthalpy to figure out whether the is positive or negative (using ) to determine the reaction's spontaneity.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Albert Chen 1G » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:02 pm

When delta G is negative, the reaction is spontaneous and if positive, non-spontaneous. You can use the equation:
ΔG = ΔH - TΔS
to figure out delta g give entropy and enthalpy.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Om Patel » Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:54 pm

when delta G is negative then it is spontaneous

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Anika Scott 3A » Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:07 pm

You can determine whether a reaction is spontaneous based on whether delta G is positive or negative. A negative deltaG means the reaction is spontaneous, positive = non-spontaneous. Thus, you don't need the other values to determine.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Emily Engelkemier 1E » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:05 pm

Spontaneity is determined by delta G. If delta G is negative, then a reaction is spontaneous. If delta G is positive, then a reaction is not spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Dillon Taing 3H » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:09 pm

A reaction that takes place without external influence and favors product formation can be considered spontaneous. Because spontaneous reactions are exergonic, they can be identified when Gibbs free energy (ΔG) is negative, while a positive ΔG value indicates that the reaction is positive.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Acharya Ranawat 3E » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:59 pm

Delta G is related to spontaneity. You can use delta H and delta S in order to calculate delta G. Then, if delta G is negative it is spontaneous and vice versa.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Diya Kar » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:23 pm

Delta G can be derived utilizing change in entropy/enthalpy values or by optimizing the standard value of free energy formation for products minus reactants.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Ivan Huang Dis 3B » Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:46 am

delta g is spontaneity but you must use delta t and delta s to calculate it

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Naomi Christian 1E » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:54 pm

If delta G is negative, the reaction is spontaneous. If delta G is positive, the reaction is not spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Audrey Banzali-Marks 1A » Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:03 pm

Since Gibbs free energy takes into account both enthalpy and entropy, we can determine spontaneity using Gibbs free energy alone. If the Gibbs free energy is negative, it's spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Jordyn Lee 1J » Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:55 pm

You can determine spontaneity by just looking at Gibbs free energy because it incorporates enthalpy and entropy.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby rachelsjordan 1K » Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:07 pm

You can just look at whether delta G is positive or negative I'm pretty sure

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Diana Avalos » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:28 pm

Hello,
Yes looking at ΔG can determine spontaneity.
When ΔG is negative, this means the reaction is spontaneous!

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Rebekah Jung 1C » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:47 pm

If delta G is negative then the reaction is spontaenous, whereas if it is positive the reaction is non-spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby danielle05 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:51 pm

Gibbs free energy alone is enough to determine spontaneity. When G is negative, the reaction is spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Michael 1G » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:53 pm

Gibbs free energy is what determines spontaneity. A negative delta g represents a spontaneous reaction.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Aparna Pillai 1E » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:01 pm

Spontaneity is determined by a negative value of delta G, which is calculated by enthalpy and entropy as in the equation delta G = delta H - T * delta S.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Furkan Acar 3C » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:09 pm

Well if ΔG is negative, it's spontaneous. At least, that's what I remember.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Isabella Perez Dis3L » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:13 pm

Hi, yes we can determine spontaneity from delta G when it is negative, we don't need to look at enthalpy or entropy to determine that. Hope this helps.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby 105532700 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:16 pm

When delta G is positive It's non-spontaneous and negative, the reaction is spontaneous and if positive It's non-spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby sidneypalacios » Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:48 pm

If all you have is the free Gibbs energy then to my understanding yes you can automatically determine whether it is spontaneous or not. This occurs when ΔG is negative.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Samantha Toscano 2C » Mon Feb 21, 2022 12:02 am

This image is an easy way to see spontaneity based on deltaG
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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Ally M » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:21 am

We can tell that a reaction will be spontaneous solely based on the fact that delta g is negative. Gibbs free energy already takes enthalpy and entropy into account, so if we are given Gibbs free energy we already know.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby cnyland » Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:25 am

Because delta G= deltaH - Tdelta S, we can look only at delta G and if this value is negative, then we can say the reaction is spontaneous.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Emily Ang 2B » Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:44 pm

Just another thing to note about spontaneity is that in these cases spontaneity doesn't mean the reaction will happen out of random, it will just mean that it will happen by itself.

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Re: Sponetanity

Postby Kush Brahmbhatt 2K » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:49 pm

The quickest method to determine spontaneity of a reaction is to look at the value of deltaG. If the value of deltaG is negative, then the reaction is considered to be spontaneous (it can occur on its own). You can also determine spontaneity using enthalpy and entropy values through the equation, deltaG = deltaH - T*deltaS.


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