Closed vs. Isolated

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Ryan Neis 2L
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Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Ryan Neis 2L » Wed Jan 24, 2018 12:12 am

What is the difference between a closed system and an isolated system?

Merzia Subhan 1L
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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Merzia Subhan 1L » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:34 am

A closed system can exchange energy with its surroundings but not matter. An isolated system can exchange neither matter nor energy with its surroundings.

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby torieoishi1A » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:54 am

Examples of these are:
Closed: an reusable ice pack-->matter cannot be exchanged with the surroundings because it is sealed, but energy can when it is refrozen or melted.
Isolated: insulated thermos-->matter cannot be exchanged with the surroundings because it is sealed. energy can also not be exchanged with its surroundings since it is insulated and the surrounding temperature doesn't have an affect on the content inside the thermos.

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Shanmitha Arun 1L » Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:25 pm

If the system allows neither energy or matter transfer, then it is an isolated system. However, if it allows only energy transfer, it is a closed system.

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby nathansalce 3e » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:41 pm

To add onto this, in any system DeltaU=q(heat)+w(work) . In a closed system, more specifically, only energy can be transferred, so therefore DeltaU in a closed system =q.... just the energy transfer that takes place in between the system and its surroundings. In an isolated system, energy nor matter can be trasnferred, so therefore DeltaU=0 in an isolated system.

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Abby Ellstrom 1I » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:03 pm

A closed system allows energy to be transferred but not matter. An isolated system allows neither energy or matter to be transferred.

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Paula Dowdell 1F » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:24 pm

just a fun fact to note: the entire universe is an isolated system!

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Juanyi Tan 2K » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:20 am

An isolated system could not exchange energy or matter with surrounding, like bomb calorimeter and thermos. A closed system allows energy transfer but does not allow matter exchange. An example is a normal water bottle since the matter in it could not exchange with surrounding, but the energy transfer is still possible.

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Re: Closed vs. Isolated

Postby Veronica Rasmusen 2B » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:56 pm

A closed system can exchange energy but not matter, and an isolated system can exchange neither.


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