Clarification on Frequency


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Melvin Reputana 1L
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Clarification on Frequency

Postby Melvin Reputana 1L » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:26 pm

I understand that frequency is essentially the number of times a point on the wave passes a fixed area in one second. However, how can you manipulate the frequency of a wave? Is it by increasing the intensity of the light?

Justin Sarquiz 2F
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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby Justin Sarquiz 2F » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 pm

We can manipulate frequency by changing the wavelength since frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional [c=lambda (v)]. Increasing the intensity only increases the amplitude of the wave and has no effect on the frequency or wavelength.

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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby alex_4l » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:48 pm

Also just to add on!

Shorter wavelengths have a higher frequency and a greater energy (this would be things like purple light)
Longer wavelengths have a lesser frequency and not as strong of energy (this would be red light)

As energy increases, frequency increases since they are proportional to each other

Andrew Liang 1I
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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby Andrew Liang 1I » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:55 pm

We cannot really change the frequency of a wave unless we completely change the type of the electromagnetic wave. Frequency of an electromagnetic wave normally remains the same because each electromagnetic wave has its own unique driven oscillation.
When we increase the intensity of the light, we are only increasing the amplitude of the wave or in other words adding more light photons with the same energy.

Shrayes Raman
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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby Shrayes Raman » Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:47 am

Increasing the intensity is not the same as changing the frequency. When we change frequency we are changing the energy of each photon of the incoming em radiation. When we change intensity we change the number of the photons coming in.

Caroline Zepecki
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Do photons change with wavelength?

Postby Caroline Zepecki » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:02 am

I'm trying to visualize some of what we went over in lecture about how shorter, less intense wavelengths have enough energy in a single photon to displace elections. I was wondering what about photons changed with wavelength (is it intensity?), and if there's an equation that relates them?

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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby Julia Mazzucato 4D » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:46 am

To answer 905289082:

The energy of the light is related to the frequency of it, not the intensity per se. Amplitude is intensity (the brighter the light, the higher the amplitude), but the amplitude of the light has no bearing on the equation of the energy. The wavelength of the light has a direct effect on the frequency because of the equation c= - we know that as wavelength gets shorter, the frequency gets higher. It's easier to visualize this if you look at a graph. The shorter the distance between a wave's peaks means that the wave is more "compressed", so more complete waves pass by in a second. Because E=hv, a higher frequency will increase the energy per photon. But changing the amplitude doesn't do that cause you're just making the light "brighter", not higher energy. So the energy per photon won't increase, you'll just have more of those low-energy photons. An analogy to visualize this: you have a machine that will requires you to insert one (and only one) coin with the value of 10 cents. You only have nickels. You can increase the amount of nickels you have (increase the intensity), but having more coins won't help because no single coin you have is 10 cents. And you can't combine two nickels to make ten cents because you specifically can only use one coin (one photon to one electron interaction). You need a higher value (higher energy) dime.

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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby ValerieChavarin 4F » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:55 pm

Increasing the intensity of light will not change the frequency of a wave, it will only change the amplitude of the wave.

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Re: Clarification on Frequency

Postby stephaniekim2K » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:55 pm

Since C=λν, frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional, meaning that as one increases, the other decreases since the speed of light, c, is constant. By decreasing the wavelength, you can increase the frequency.


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