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Postby Sophia Dinh 1D » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:42 pm

do you need Avogadro's number to find degeneracy?

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Postby Indy Bui 1l » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:45 pm

I think this is because we want to find one mole's worth, which is avagodros number in terms of atoms or molecules.

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Postby Jonathan Haimowitz 3B » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:03 am

You need to multiply N by Avogadro's number to calculate the degeneracy of N moles of a certain substance, but not to calculate that of N particles.

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Postby Ava Nickman » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:12 am

yes you do

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Postby Kaley Qin 1F » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:21 pm

No, you don't need Avogadro's number to find degeneracy. You will only use Avogadro's number for degeneracy if you are finding the degeneracy of a mole of molecules.

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Postby Jiwon_Chae_3L » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:00 pm

You don't necessarily need to use Avogadro's constant to find degeneracy but if a question requires you to know the degeneracy of a mole of a substance, Avogadro's constant is needed for the value of the "number of particles" within the states.

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Postby Abhinav Behl 3G » Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:54 pm

You would only need to apply Avogadro's number if the question asks you to find the degeneracy of a mole of the given substance.

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Postby Emma_Barrall_3J » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:13 am

Only if you are looking in the context of per mole.

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Postby Sai Ramadas 1J » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:54 pm

We do need to use Avogadro's number if we want to find the degeneracy of N moles of a certain substance. However, if you are simply calculating the degeneracy of a certain number of particles, you do not use Avogadro's number.

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Postby Ayesha Aslam-Mir 3C » Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:56 pm

Kaley Qin 1F wrote:No, you don't need Avogadro's number to find degeneracy. You will only use Avogadro's number for degeneracy if you are finding the degeneracy of a mole of molecules.


Well said here! Just like with the first law of thermodynamics, we need to consider context/all factores, here whether we are looking for degeneracy per mole or just amongst particles-- if you need to figure it out per mole, you'll need Avogadro's number.

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Postby Brandon Le 3C » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:42 pm

You would only need Avogadro's number if you were to find the degeneracy of a specific number of moles of a molecule, much like how you would only use Avogadro's number to find the mass of only one atom of an element when given the molar mass.

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Postby jessicasilverstein1F » Wed Feb 17, 2021 10:57 am

Yes, if looking in terms of per mol

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Postby Akriti Ratti 1H » Wed Feb 17, 2021 12:02 pm

Yes, if you're working with moles.


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